Weapon Req - Guild Wars Forums

thelaughingcorpse · Sep 09, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Do weapons do more damage with lower requirement?

Gift3d · Sep 09, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

No.

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HawkofStorms · Sep 09, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52

Because that was a very common myth Twin Blade when the game first came out.

Also, many new players have trouble understanding why low requirement weapons are worth SO much more if they are functionally identical. Its a perfectly valid question, and isn't dumb at all. Better to ask and find out then not ask and have a incorrect assumption about game mechanics.

But the answer is no.

dilan155 · Sep 09, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

im afraid not, the only reason a low req weapon is more preferable is if you cant spare the points

ShoGunTheOne · Sep 10, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

they do in a sence as you have to put in more points into the mastery to use them, but as you increase your mastery, your chance of crit also increases, so you do overall more damage

the weapons don't do more damage themselves, but high req weapons force you to put in extra points in the mastery

Savio · Sep 10, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by ShoGunTheOne

the weapons don't do more damage themselves

You're wrong, increasing your weapon mastery increases the damage you do even without the crits.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Damag...#Weapon_Damage

Dante the Warlord · Sep 10, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Yea is a confusing calculation, but in the short run (and WAY easier to say) no. But the LONG and hard to understand version is yes there is a difference in damage output (i know because i asked this question myself). Basically you will do SLIGHTLY more damage at 12 then at 9. The difference is minimal and really, i wouldn't suggest puting the effort in making a build just for a 2-3 extra damage from r12 then from r9.

Savio · Sep 10, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Basically you will do SLIGHTLY more damage at 12 then at 9.

At attribute 9, you deal 77% of stated damage; at attribute 12 you deal 100%, plus all the gains from more crits and higher damage from attack skills. That's pretty significant.

AKB48 · Sep 10, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by Savio

At attribute 9, you deal 77% of stated damage; at attribute 12 you deal 100%, plus all the gains from more crits and higher damage from attack skills. That's pretty significant.

But 100% of HOW much damage? If it is, say 20, then 100% of 20 is 20 and 77% is 15.4 not a huge difference. But even at 20 strength, you only have a 20% chance to land a critical hit. That's pretty low imo.

MisterB · Sep 10, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Strength has nothing whatsoever to do with critical hits.
Weapon mastery increases the chance to critical with every additional attribute point.

Dante the Warlord · Sep 10, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by Savio

At attribute 9, you deal 77% of stated damage; at attribute 12 you deal 100%, plus all the gains from more crits and higher damage from attack skills. That's pretty significant.

Psh 23% that doesn't matter XD

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Originally Posted by MisterB

Strength has nothing whatsoever to do with critical hits.
Weapon mastery increases the chance to critical with every additional attribute point.

No, strength DOES have something to deal with crits, but since it only applies to crits in strength skills its usually always overlooked.

Savio · Sep 11, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by AKB48

But 100% of HOW much damage?

100% of whatever damage your weapon does.

You could try reading the link.

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

No, strength DOES have something to deal with crits, but since it only applies to crits in strength skills its usually always overlooked.

Strength applies to any attack skill, not just those that are strength-based.

A11Eur0 · Sep 11, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25

I'm going to agree with Savio. in Isle of the Nameless auto-attacking against a 60AL target with an uncustomized furious Runic blade Req 9 with Swordsmanship att of 12, I was dealing on average the upper range of the sword's 15-22. With an attribute of 9, matching the sword's requirement, I was only hitting an average of 15 or so, on the 60AL target. this is removing the critical hits.

On the 100AL target, I was hitting averages of 10 and 7, with attributes of 12 and 9, respectively.

All tests were performed with a static 12 Strength attribute.

Not a myth, it's the real deal. BUT, you don't deal more damage from a Req 9 sword than you do with a Req 12 sword all else being equal, you just NEED the 12 att points to use the R12 sword to its fullest potential.

Sep 09, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#1
thelaughingcorpse Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: How It Ends Profession: N/	Weapon Req Do weapons do more damage with lower requirement?

Sep 09, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37	#2
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Sep 09, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52	#3
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Because that was a very common myth Twin Blade when the game first came out. Also, many new players have trouble understanding why low requirement weapons are worth SO much more if they are functionally identical. Its a perfectly valid question, and isn't dumb at all. Better to ask and find out then not ask and have a incorrect assumption about game mechanics. But the answer is no.

Sep 09, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#4
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	im afraid not, the only reason a low req weapon is more preferable is if you cant spare the points

Sep 10, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19	#5
ShoGunTheOne Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Undercity Guild: 泰瑞亚联盟 Profession: E/	they do in a sence as you have to put in more points into the mastery to use them, but as you increase your mastery, your chance of crit also increases, so you do overall more damage the weapons don't do more damage themselves, but high req weapons force you to put in extra points in the mastery

Sep 10, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#7
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	Yea is a confusing calculation, but in the short run (and WAY easier to say) no. But the LONG and hard to understand version is yes there is a difference in damage output (i know because i asked this question myself). Basically you will do SLIGHTLY more damage at 12 then at 9. The difference is minimal and really, i wouldn't suggest puting the effort in making a build just for a 2-3 extra damage from r12 then from r9.

Sep 10, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#10
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	Strength has nothing whatsoever to do with critical hits. Weapon mastery increases the chance to critical with every additional attribute point.

Sep 11, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25	#13
A11Eur0 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	I'm going to agree with Savio. in Isle of the Nameless auto-attacking against a 60AL target with an uncustomized furious Runic blade Req 9 with Swordsmanship att of 12, I was dealing on average the upper range of the sword's 15-22. With an attribute of 9, matching the sword's requirement, I was only hitting an average of 15 or so, on the 60AL target. this is removing the critical hits. On the 100AL target, I was hitting averages of 10 and 7, with attributes of 12 and 9, respectively. All tests were performed with a static 12 Strength attribute. Not a myth, it's the real deal. BUT, you don't deal more damage from a Req 9 sword than you do with a Req 12 sword all else being equal, you just NEED the 12 att points to use the R12 sword to its fullest potential.